Saturday, May 19, 2007

Cultural Heritage: The construction of the new museum of acropolis, in a place filled with ancient buildings is an intentional destruction.

Cultural Heritage: The construction of the new museum of acropolis, in a place filled with ancient buildings is an intentional destruction.

11 comments:

Unknown said...

Is the elevator installed at the Parthenon?

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Anonymous said...

There is no need for elevator for the simple reason, that nothing interresting will remain on the rock hill. Cement blocks will replace the sculptures of the monument after this "restoration". Nike temple is missing. A mess of some marbles and cements will remain. But they installed a type of crane for the remove of the sculptures instead an elevator.

Lucretius said...

the elevator is installed in the north part of the rock, near erectheion. And the Nike temple is being restored and it already is up to the frieze.

Anonymous said...

This elevator is a type of crane. It is not a permanent construction and was installed only for Olympic Games 2004.
You must be very brave to use it and also very well trained to reach it climp up on the slopes of Acropolis on the top of Plaka.
If you dont believe you have to see it with your own eyes...
As for the Nike Temple is well known that the original frieze will move in Acropolis new museum for decoration

Lucretius said...

"installed only for the Olympic Games"? You are misinformed my friend. The elevator is still up and running and used by a lot of people every day. I've been there recently and I saw many wheelchairs wander around in the acropolis.And of course the elevator is a light construction (so it doesn't disturb the view of the north slope from Plaka) but a permanent one, as there is no other way for the handicapped to access the Acropolis.I agree with you that it takes courage to use it but as I said is the only way up. Or you're suggesting they should stay to their homes?
As for the Nike temple, the frieze is going to the museum for protection, not decoration. And in fact it has been displayed in the old museum building for a long time.

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Anonymous said...

I didn't see users very happy about the so called elevator. I push some whealchairs up to this elevator and we were near to be killed because of the slops.
The frieze of Nike is part of architectural structure and can be protected were is is and there is not any need to be taken by privates organizations LIKE ELGIN DID.
Well is good money for privates to find fake excuses to take culture heritage sculptures that belongs to humanity.
The only you need is stupids citizens to make money.
According Laws monuments should not be destroyed but should be protected and restored (to democracies).
Pls don't bother internet with your cheap nonses and propaganda just to make vandals private interrests very rich.

Lucretius said...

So now the elevator is still working? In the previous post you stated it was only installed for the Olympics. Do you see the nonsense and propaganda now? And I never heard of a death or danger due to the elevator so it must be working well. I asked the operator and told me that every day it's been used by at least 5-10 people.

As for the frieze of Nike temple, It might be a part of a building but it also is very fragile and easily corroded. And yes, there are ways of protecting it on the monument but I don't think you 'd like to see a glass box filled with nitrogen up and around the top of the temple. What is your proposal? Remember the Karyatids, Kekrops and Pandrossos and the west frieze of the parthenon (or the frieze of Theseion-Hephaisteion) and their state of preservation in contrast to the sculptures that were removed by elgin before Athens's air became so polluted.
Where do you see the private organization? The organization that hosts/will host them is the Acropolis museum, which is as every greek museum a public organization.
And I don't have any interest to make propaganda, just to make "vandals private interests" happy. It's called common sense.

Anonymous said...

You exaggerate for propaganda needs of destruction and taking sculptures parts of monument away.
In chemistry there are much easier solutions that all those stories of science fantasy.

First of all is only water with Ca.

Common sense is do not destroy global monuments to clear the buffer zone of Acropolis.
You never destroy monuments to build a museum.

And a story.
Is like to kill someone because you don't want to treat him and you want to make a nice tomb for him and get more money by showing his tomb . SO THERE IS NOT ANY EXCUSE AND YOU ARE GUILTY AND CRIMINAL. You are more criminal if you push the judge to accept correct all those acts you are doing. You are criminal and you also destroy the legal system and democracy. The new era of the imposters is rising.

The monument belongs to humanity and not to those that making money from its destruction.

Pls write your propaganda somewhere else.

Lucretius said...

"only water with Ca"? Have you been up there lately? Have you seen the corrosion of the marble due to the acid rain? (or this doesn't exist either)and the smoke deposits on every surface that's not washed away by the rain? And which solution do you propose? Read the proceedingσ of the the 3 International meetings for Restoration of the Acropolis monuments and especially the papers of prof Skoulikidis and Manolis Korres regarding the corrosion and delapidation of the marble. Or is this propaganda too?

All the court appeals for the destruction of the monuments on Makriyanni area where rejected but you are talking about "GUILTY AND CRIMINAL" in general. Who is guilty and who is criminal? That sound a bit like propaganda to me. And as long as the comments on the topic are open I think that I have the right to express my opinion with respect to the owner of the blog and you. I see no reason to go "somewhere else", as long as I have something to say.

Anonymous said...

Pls write somewere else because here is not a site for cheep industrial propaganda. It is proved easily that you make cheep propaganda with what you write about Skoulikidis.

Himself Skoulikidis, whom you are not ashamed to report, already has answered in all those cheep propaganda fairy tales, with article that is attached above.
In the papers of professor Skoulikidis, for example his article and also his position to Acropolis Committee, are existing the answers about the protection of monument from pollution, there were is found. You make falsely that you ignore all that and you are reported to Skoulikidis deliberately false, whom he always asked the protection of monument there were is found and he had dissagreement about the "restoration" and the material they decide to use.

For whom international meetings you are reported?
You mean those, that they are not open attendance in the international scientific community? even if the monument is world heritage? where the two- three only invitations for foreigner scientists are strictly selected? and after all those you insist that what you write is not cheep propaganda?
It is well known in Greece that governmental and their friends, change laws on their own personal interest and press justice for decisions, that serve only them. Although in the public opinion all those behaviors are condemned irrevocably.

Lucretius said...

So is this an answer? Did you think you answered any of my questions above? PROPAGANDA-PROPAGANDA-PROPAGANDA (only now it's cheap and industrial(!?)...Goebbels was right after all.

Goodbye my friend. I leave you and your blind monolithic opinions. It seems you are prepared to hear only those who agree with your shouts...

(just for the record I speak of the 5 International meetings. THe latest was that of 2002 and was attended by 250 scientist from greece and abroad. Read the proceedings for a complete list of names.